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Re: Dark Side of the Hybrids
| Michael Pardee | 03 Aug 2005 03:58 |
> Pfft, missing the point. The point is that they're ONLY getting > 40-45mpg. Many non-hybrids on sale in the EU will easily beat that. > For isntance, n the UK, a VW lupo returned to one of the most > outspoken motoring journalists int he world, an AVERAGE of 65mpg > Hybrids are a Pr stunt only. Fuel economy is only a side effect of hybridization. The major reason for the change is to correct the fundamental engineering debacle of using a 260 hp engine to move a personal vehicle through city traffic or along a freeway while we could have *better* performance and economy from a 100 hp engine running when needed and electric power to do the rest. In effect, hybridization separates engine power from acceleration performance. Honda has a good example in their 2001 concept car, the Dualnote ( http://world.honda.com/Tokyo2001/auto/DUALNOTE/index.html ). 4 passengers, 400 combined hp, with off-the-line acceleration comparable to a 600 hp car (according to Honda engineers interviewed in a Popular Mechanics article a couple years ago), and fuel economy estimated around 40 mpg. Kinda like a Super Lupo ;-)
Admittedly, hybrids are in their infancy now (but as an owner I can tell you the Prius is a really nice infant!) As an engineer I believe it is safe to say hybrids will be the rule rather than the exception for passenger cars (but not trucks) within 20 years for very sound design reasons. You may believe what you wish.
Mike
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| flobert | 31 Jul 2005 02:42 |
>The current edition of "Car and Driver" (magazine) has an interesting >article about the dark side of the hybrids on page 26. The date on the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Jason Pfft, missing the point. The point is that they're ONLY getting 40-45mpg. Many non-hybrids on sale in the EU will easily beat that. For isntance, n the UK, a VW lupo returned to one of the most outspoken motoring journalists int he world, an AVERAGE of 65mpg Hybrids are a Pr stunt only.
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| Jason | 30 Jul 2005 17:17 |
The current edition of "Car and Driver" (magazine) has an interesting article about the dark side of the hybrids on page 26. The date on the cover is September 2005.
Many of the so called "greenies" have purchased hybrids because they really care about the environment. I learned about something from the article that I had never thought about before. What's going to happen to those millions of batteries in hybrid vehicles after they wear out? They will be placed in landfills. Imagine the harm that those batteries may do to the enviroment after they are laying in a landfill for 50 years.
If you own or are planning to buy a hybrid vehicle, I advise you to read the article.
Jason
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