>>ok, let's try this instead: >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > places before (but I don't recall where they have been), so I wouldn't have > thought it was unusual. it's not - because bolts move! that's why there's a whole industry dedicated to the production of locking mechanisms for threaded fastners. usually, we only care about the ones that loosen because they are more likely to cause the failures.
> I would speculate that the torque we need to apply > to break crank bolts loose isn't being directed to the threads but to the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > galling - leading me to the speculation of the galled head and washer > surfaces being the key. which is consistent with lash of the pulley wheel!
> That would also be consistent with the observation > that the break-loose torque goes up over the years, if engine heat and/or > vibration is important in the development of the galling. that's part of it, but ultimately, as we can see from the skid marks on the underside of the washer, the bolt is still free to turn. the question is, at what torque. once it is turning, that sob is still in there /way/ tight, and way tighter than when torquing to fastening spec.
> I don't think we have enough to work with to come up with a definitive > answer. depends if we've spent time doing this kind of work before!
> Mike |