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Re: Self Tightening Bolts, Self Locking Bolts
| Michael Pardee | 08 Nov 2005 23:42 |
> http://square.cjb.cc/bolts.htm > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > I wonder what this is about. I am unconvinced by this theory.
1) If microscopic ratchet teeth are created to cause the bolt to self-tighten, wouldn't they be destroyed when the god-awful tight bolt is broken loose? The bolt at least should be specified as a "use once" item, regardless of how the mating threads in the crank fare.
2) In order to tighten, the bolt will have to move with respect to the pulley. That means the washer must have similar ratcheting action, and on a similar microscopic level to allow the ratchet to occur with miniscule motion. That means if the washer is less than pristine and is reused the bolt won't self-tighten.
3) The forces are downright outrageous. In round numbers, if the washer diameter is 1/2 inch and the bolt thread diameter is 1/4 inch, to tighten past the 200 ft-lb mark the bolt head has to experience 5000 pounds force from one side to the other, or 10000 pounds force on one side relative to the center. The equivalent force on the thread is double that.
4) If there is significant motion of the pulley relative to the crank, the mating surfaces will wallow out. We see it often enough with splined drive axles that are insufficiently torqued.
Altogether, it doesn't add up. Torsional forces between the pulley and crank must act unidirectionally on the bolt, with several tons of force being transferred through both sides of the washer and without damaging the pulley or crank mating surfaces, with enough movement to materially tighten the bolt. The theorized ratchet mechanism has to operate on a microscopic basis, not be damaged in removal, and to allow effortless unthreading when the bolt is broken loose. It must work over a wide range of lubrication, including a penetrant oil film or being cleaned with brake cleaner. I'm glad I haven't been asked to design something like that, particularly if I could just specify tightening to a different torque in the first place.
Mike
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| karl | 07 Nov 2005 15:58 |
http://square.cjb.cc/bolts.htm
"Self Tightening Bolts theory. Warning: this page is only a theory, not a fact."
That's a good description.
Could someone please explain what self-tightening and self-locking bolts are and give examples. The author may have the latter in mind.
"Figure 4.1 This picture explains the great inertia and centrifugal force"
"When ever there is a difference in inertial force (as pointed out with the arrows) the pulley will move. Not 180-ft-lb torque can hold the pulley still."
I wonder what this is about.
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