> "karl" <ottokarl@cognisurf.com> wrote > > http://square.cjb.cc/bolts.htm [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > from one side to the other, or 10000 pounds force on one side relative to > the center. The equivalent force on the thread is double that. It's the stresses in the bolt, not the forces acting on the side of it, that matter. Specifically, torquing down on a bolt is the equivalent of stretching it until it holds two things together. The torquing causes the threads to act against each other so as to place the bolt in tension (as opposed to compression).
For correlating torque to the axial load it produces, one finds somewhat crude estimates like that given at the bottom of http://www.engineersedge.com/torque.htm . But of course, this formula will require tweaking depending on conditions. E.g. fine thread vs. coarse thread.
Anyway, it's really about 200 ft-lbs. divided over the six edges of the roughly 1.7/2 cm (= about .33 inch = about 0.028 foot) radius bolt head (for a 91 Civic, for one), anyway. (This Civic's pulley bolt has a 17 mm head and 14 mm nominal diameter.) So something like 200/6/(0.028) = about 1200 pounds is applied to each bolt head edge. Key word being "edge." Then one has to think about what it means to "apply" this force to the whole edge. It's distributed over the surface of the edge, for one thing. If one took 1200 lbs. and set it on a bar of steel with a cross-sectional area of about 1/8 inch by 1/8 inch = 1/64 inch (conservative for this back-of-the-envelope calculation), the stress would still be only 1200*64 = 77000 psi, far below the yield strength of typical steels. And it's not being applied perpendicularly to each face, but more in shear, besides.
> 4) If there is significant motion of the pulley relative to the crank, the > mating surfaces will wallow out. Which mating surfaces?
> We see it often enough with splined drive > axles that are insufficiently torqued. > > Altogether, it doesn't add up. Torsional forces between the pulley and crank > must act unidirectionally on the bolt, with several tons of force being > transferred through both sides of the washer and If the above is supposed to relate to your earlier calculation, then I think there's a conceptual error here.
> without damaging the pulley > or crank mating surfaces, with enough movement to materially tighten the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > been asked to design something like that, particularly if I could just > specify tightening to a different torque in the first place. I have doubts that a cold bolt-pulley-crankshaft assembly would hold up to a hand application of 300 ft-lbs. of tightening torque. 'Cause crude estimators like the one I cite above indicate this would produce in the neighborhood of 300(12)/(.2*.55) = 32700 lbs. of axial load in the bolt, or 32700 / (Pi r^2) = about 137,000 psi of tensile stress in the bolt, which is mighty close to the yield strength (~ 130,000 to 150,000) of many steels. This is too close for engineering comfort.
Which is why I am led to believe galling, aggravated by extreme heat cycling and the high loads of that pulley working on an initially pretty tight bolt, plays at least some role and possibly all of it.
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