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Re: Honda "Drive by Wire" question... what if the power goes out?
| Elle | 18 Nov 2005 17:03 |
> This concern has been answered eloquently by a contributor to > these newsgroups a few years ago. Sorry I can't name the author, but [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > "The hydraulic brake system is a textbook model of development > to perfection. So was the hydromechanical automatic transmission -- Ya, so was the horse and buggy, the bicycle, etc.
> computerisation of the automatic transmission has taken away > three-for-one in durability, dependability and cost of repair what > little it has given us. We know how to make steering systems that work > and essentially never give trouble. There is, therefore, no valid > reason for steer-by-wire." This reminds me of Bill Gates comment a few decades ago that no one should ever need more than 64k of RAM on his/her computer.
What you quote is incredibly short-sighted. It demonstrates a lack of willingness to do any kind of investigation of why fly-by-wire was considered. In short, these are the words not of an engineer, scientist, or technical person but a ninny, and a ninny tired of having more demanded of him for his labors, at that.
He's happy with the status quo. Others are not. He should get out of the business or certainly never enter it.
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| the fly | 18 Nov 2005 16:49 |
>Hi there. > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >David This concern has been answered eloquently by a contributor to these newsgroups a few years ago. Sorry I can't name the author, but that person hit the nail squarely on the head with these words:
".........more importantly than that, you've got to have the insight and wisdom to know when something has been developed to the point where further development amounts to pointless engineering masturbation.
"The hydraulic brake system is a textbook model of development to perfection. So was the hydromechanical automatic transmission -- computerisation of the automatic transmission has taken away three-for-one in durability, dependability and cost of repair what little it has given us. We know how to make steering systems that work and essentially never give trouble. There is, therefore, no valid reason for steer-by-wire."
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| David E. Powell | 18 Nov 2005 16:31 |
Hi there.
I have been looking at the new Honda Civic, it's pretty sweet, and the welds and everything are as nice as anything I have ever seen. I just have a question about the "Drive by wire" system that they are supposed to have.
What happens if the Engine dies on you? In my current car, my timing chip went once and the engine went out. I had enough steering control left, even without power steering, to pull my car over before it came to a stop. If the drive by wire system has no "real" or active connection, how can it work if the engine or electronics quit on you? Are there any backups built into the system in case any of that stuff happens? And what if your battery dies and you need to push the car? Can you turn the steering wheel to adjust your wheels when you push the car?
Much thanks, sorry to bother.
David
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