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Re: 94 Accord LX concerns
| Michael Pardee | 21 Jan 2007 06:28 |
> This car still runs great with 240 K miles in it but recently I had > some bad episodes which makes me wonder. [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > JP Pilots speak of the engine being "auto-rough in clouds." I think the same thing is bedeviling you. Your anxiety level is higher and things that you normally wouldn't give a thought to are on your mind.
The first experience - stalling in deep water - is puzzling. Why the engine stalled I don't know, but you should be aware the ECU can get wet when the car is in water above the floorboards for a while. Vague, I know, but different cars have different leakage rates. As long as your "check engine" light hasn't been coming on and the engine runs normally you've probably been on the side of the angels there.
The overheating is always a concern, since serious overheating can warp the cylinder head and cause persistent overheating and loss of coolant. It's safe to say you lost coolant at some point - you had to refill - but when was the last time you checked the coolant level before this? It may have dropped over the course of months or even years. Since the coolant isn't disappearing now the other worries, like the condensation, really aren't significant. Even when the heater core leaks the condensation is water (the glycol is actually cooled by the fractional distillation of the water in the mix). It's also hard to miss the sweet antifreeze smell of a leaking radiator core.
If the coolant hasn't actually been changed recently, this is as good time as any. It should be refilled with genuine Honda premix. Replacing the thermostat with a Honda thermostat isn't a bad idea while that is being done. And just to cover another very important routine as long as your awareness is elevated: is the timing belt due for replacement? Your owner's manual will tell you how often it's due, and letting it go can cost you the engine.
Mike
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| John Paul | 21 Jan 2007 04:58 |
This car still runs great with 240 K miles in it but recently I had some bad episodes which makes me wonder.
The first episode was about a month ago when I was driving at night in a heavy downpour and I ran into a deep puddle that I could not see in time. The puddle may have been about axle deep at its deepest point and the engine suddenly stopped. When the car itself stopped rolling it was still in the puddle but in only about ankle deep at that point. Fortunately my electric circuits seemed to be OK as I was able to use the emergency flashers. As I was ready to phone for some help, I decided to see if I could start it. Well, the starter seemed to have plenty of power and after several cranking attempts I was able to restart the engine and except the initial spongy brakes everything seemed to be fine.
I still have no idea what caused the engine cutoff: water getting to the ignition circuits or perhaps into the air intake? I always thought Honda's electric circuits were pretty well insulated from moisture, with tight rubber boots, etc. But maybe somebody has a better insight into this.
The second episode was about 10 days ago when the normally 30 minute home commute turned into 4 hours because of a snow storm hitting my area just at the afternoon commute time. At the end of four hours I could not even make the last two miles on the side streets so I had to leave my car overnight at a supermarket parking lot for two days till the side streets were good enough to drive it home. Later that day I drove the car on the freeway and I noticed that the temp. guage was moving really fast to the top that I never noticed before. So I quickly pulled off at the nearest exit and checked my coolant at a gas station. Sure enough, the radiator was almost empty as I could pour about 3 quarts of antifreeze mixture into it. Since then I've been watching any leaks in the cooling system but could not notice any and its level has been holding in the radiator after several days. I still wonder though if I was driving with low coolant level and high engine temp during some of that long 4 hour commute but I was just not looking at the guage. The car is still running fine but again it makes me wonder.
It makes me wonder especially as I noticed the unusually heavy fogging in my car after the engine warms up and especially when I turn on the heater. I get a lot of condensation on the cold windows, even on the rear window. The condensation does not seem to be pure water but feels slick like the antifreeze. What is puzzling about it though that I don't seem to be losing any coolant as far as I can see in its level visible in the radiator opening. I also see no drips on my garage floor. It's a real mistery to me.
I am taking my car to a shop next week but would appreciate hearing any insights from those of you having had more experience with cars than I've had.
Thanks for reading this long post,
JP
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