On Mar 23, 5:27 pm, isq...@gmail.com wrote:

it's quite possible that the amount of emissions produced by the power
plant to produce the electricity to charge a Telsa car could be more
than the emissions than a gasoline car.

ok, but you cannot choose your power source when you use electricity.
The power sources all mixed in the electrical grid. And about 80% of
U.S. power comes from coal, oil, and natural gas.

http://energy.cr.usgs.gov/energy/stats_ctry/Stat1.html

You are saying that the power plant that for example burns
diesel does so with more emissions than a diesel car does?
Nuclear plants produce relatively clean electricity
unless they blow up or the by products are disposed of improperly.
It's definitely easier to control the waste from immovable
plant than from hundreds of millions of cars (some of which
are even exempt from emissions testing in the US, and out
of USA I bet some countries don't even have a requirement to
test the cars as a part of an annual check).

On Mar 22, 8:43 am, isq...@gmail.com wrote:

man, you are skeptical. Tesla? that's an all-electric. which probably
produces more emissions than a hybrid because the electricity is
generated by burning coal, natural gas, and oil.

"Emissions - 89 percent fewer smog-forming emissions than the average
new car, exceeding the standards for a Super Ultra Low Emission
Vehicle (SULEV)"
http://www.hybridcars.com/compacts-sedans/toyota-prius-overview.html

The reason why hybrids can have near zero emissions is because they
keep the engine running at peak efficiency as much as possible.

The one I was next to the other day in a parking lot DID have
the gasoline engine idling so I don't see where you pulled the
90% number out of. From the tesla marketing materials?
That one surely does not run the motor at idle.

It's true that the realistic mpg of Prius is about 45 mpg, which is
only about 30% better than the 35 mpg I get from my gasoline Civic.
But I think most people neglect the emissions benefit of hybrids:
typically 90% less than gasoline cars. And probably way more than that
compared to a Hummer.

http://omidr.typepad.com/torque/2007/03/toyotas_prius_i.html

maybe fewer hybrid crap will be forced on our shoulders after
all and Ed Markey would finally shut up?
Did Canada sign Kyoto protocol?