I've gotten fairly good at starting out, unless there is a lot of noise
around like a large truck or Harley sitting beside me.  Neither the
clutch nor the throttle gives any tactile feedback, unlike every other
standard shift car or truck I've driven.  So, without aural feedback, it
is easy to either stall the engine or race it to 2,000 RPM when starting
out.

Actually, the most troublesome area for me is still the 1-2 shift.  I
rarely get that done smoothly.  2-3, 3-4 and 4-5 aren't bad now.

I've never driven a stick shift Honda so I have no basis for comparison.
 Of all the cars I've driven, the BMW is the best.  For trucks, my
current Chevy K1500 with the MT8 transmission is the best.

Matt

Well, I have an automatic and the throttle sensitivity is still an issue
for me.  Yes, I have gotten used to it, but there are still times,
especially after driving another car of just about any make or model,
when I am still stunned by it.  I can't imagine how you engage the
clutch without chirping the tires or stalling on almost every 1st gear
start.

And not to argue the point about BMW's, but I personally think Honda has
the best manual on the market.  But I know you are a little anti-Honda,
Matt.

Eric

I can't remember if you have standard shift or automatic.  With an
automatic, it would likely not be an issue and I didn't notice it with
the two automatics I test drove.  I suspect it is amplified with
standard shift.  You drive a BMW and then the Sonata and the difference
is night and day.  BMW knows how to do standard shift right and Hyundai
hasn't a clue.

Matt

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message

Throttle sensitivity  bothered me for a month or so, but no more.  One of us
has changed, I guess.  It has been a common complaint though.

Probably.  My 06 Sonata has been the most trouble-free car I've ever
owned, but it also has some of the most annoying design quirks,
particularly a lousy clutch and over sensitive electronic throttle.  If
they would hire BMW to design their clutch and throttle, it would be an
amazing car.

Matt

Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?