> I'm hoping that among those Lexus owners/drivers out there in this > group there will be one or more who have this leasing thing down pat > and can advise me what would be a reasonable amount to pay monthly. You, sir, will be ripped off no matter what you do.
You should NOT be doing this. You have at least 6 months of research to do in how the finance world works, with the leasing addendum at the end.
This sounds harsh, but you need it. You need to be slapped into reality. You are asking how to fly a 747 by posting a single note on the Usenet. You will crash and burn, and no amount of info from here, in this format, will help you.
Some things to consider:
* You are not buying a car, you are buying a car AND you are buying money. Those are two completely independent transactions. You need not buy the money from or via the same guy you buy the car from. In fact, if you do you WILL be ripped off.
* A lease is nothing more than a finance contract with a balloon payment. There's no magic. It isn't rocket surgery.
* The dealership doesn't lease you the car. The dealership SELLS the car and takes the money. They can sell the car to YOU, or they can sell the car to a finance company who will lease it back to you.
* If the salesman brings the buyer and the leasing company together, the salesman makes a commission. See my first point above. This commission is unrelated to the commission he makes for selling the car. Not only does he now have every incentive to make this deal as profitable as he can for himself and his dealership, he now has every incentive to make it as profitable as he can to the leasing company. He also has the *ability* to do it because you're not paying attention, you're emotionally involved and not treating it like a business deal, and he owns all the cards.
* Anyone--ANYONE--who focuses on the monthly payment WILL be ripped off. The salesman owns all the cards, and he can manipulate that and squeeze you for ten bucks here and thirty bucks there until you have paid off his boat AND his trip to Hawaii.
* The salesman does this for a living, several times a day. You do it once every few years at best. Yes, he owns all the cards. And the more you ask him to do for you, the better his hand gets--until the best you can do is walk away without signing your name, because that's the ONLY way you won't be ripped off big time.
How do you avoid being ripped off?
* Ask for the out the door price of the car. Period. Not a monthly payment. He is selling the car. Get that to be as low as you can.
* Buy the money from someone who sells money for a living, not from someone who sells cars for a living. It's real simple. This is valid whether you're financing to own the car at the end, or whether you're financing to turn the car in at the end as the balloon payment.
* When you buy the money, buy it like you'd buy anything else--you want it as cheap as you can get it. Don't talk monthly payment. Talk interest rates. For leases, talk lease factors--but do the research on what that means.
* Don't lease a car if you're going to drive it 30K miles/year, especially not a Lexus. You're far, far better off buying it and simply selling it whenever you're finished with it.
I could go on and on with both lists, but I know I'm talking to a brick wall here.
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