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Re: 1964 GT HAWK R2 mint original car for sale

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Re: 1964 GT HAWK R2 mint original car for sale

Bob29 Mar 2008 02:10
> >    I agree, the trick is to find just the guy that prefers a nice
> > survivor to a trailer queen.
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> Anyone who would like to discuss this car directly can call me at
> 519-927-3966 or Skype: bob.shapton

This car is now SOLD.

Bob08 Mar 2008 17:21
>    I agree, the trick is to find just the guy that prefers a nice
> survivor to a trailer queen.
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> > hard to find and impossible to duplicate regardless of how deep one's
> > pockets.  Different strokes ....

Anyone who would like to discuss this car directly can call me at
519-927-3966 or Skype: bob.shapton

John Poulos06 Mar 2008 02:06
I agree, the trick is to find just the guy that prefers a nice
survivor to a trailer queen.

>>  I think what this spirited dialogue boils down to is this -
> 'most' people may prefer an absolutely 'perfect' car like your green
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>
> Bob

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JP/Maryland
Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com
My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/
64 R2 GT Hawk
63 R2 GT Hawk
63 Lark 2 door
57 Wagon
51 Commander
39 Coupe Express
39 Coupe Express (body)


Bob06 Mar 2008 01:27
> Not great paint
>
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> 39 Coupe Express
> 39 Coupe Express (body)

John, I was not trying to disparage your car but only paraphrasing the
few shortcomings you mentioned in your listing and what I observed
regarding the fit of the passenger door and trunk lid. I don't doubt
it was a very nice car indeed, not a turd, and the auction showed its
worth. I think what this spirited dialogue boils down to is this -
'most' people may prefer an absolutely 'perfect' car like your green
'64 (I'm drooling all over my keyboard) while a very few others,
myself included, appreciate a 'survivor' simply because they are SO
hard to find and impossible to duplicate regardless of how deep one's
pockets.  Different strokes ....

Bob

John Poulos06 Mar 2008 01:12
Not great paint

translation: Not much better then factory, but a 5K plus clear/coat
color coat

Poor fitting panels

translation: I have no idea what you are talking about unless it was the
hood which I did align.

vinyl on dash

Translation:

true, but it is the vinyl wood grain as used by the factory back in 63

No doubt your car may be nicer in some area's, but the red Hawk was not
exactly a turd. maybe a condition 2.  Some folks might even prefer a
everything rebuilt/upgraded in the last 5000 miles car to a nice
original one. I did not knock your car, just commenting on current
market value.

> Have you seen and compared both cars? The red '63 is a patched up
> 'restored' car with not great paint and poor fitting panels, vinyl on
> dash, etc. etc. NO COMPARISON! and it still brought more than $30k ...
> and about $20k more was spent on it? Good investment? I don't think
> so. 1 of 9 ????    ... right, whatever.

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JP/Maryland
Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com
My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/
64 R2 GT Hawk
63 R2 GT Hawk
63 Lark 2 door
57 Wagon
51 Commander
39 Coupe Express
39 Coupe Express (body)


Bob05 Mar 2008 22:25
On Mar 5, 12:57 pm, "Jerry Forrester" <forr62(no spam)@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
> I just pulled a booger out of my nose.
> It is a one of a kind, unrestored, unmolested, completely original and
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> > --
> > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com

Have you seen and compared both cars? The red '63 is a patched up
'restored' car with not great paint and poor fitting panels, vinyl on
dash, etc. etc. NO COMPARISON! and it still brought more than $30k ...
and about $20k more was spent on it? Good investment? I don't think
so. 1 of 9 ????    ... right, whatever.

Jerry Forrester05 Mar 2008 17:57
I just pulled a booger out of my nose.
It is a one of a kind, unrestored, unmolested, completely original and
showing no wear what so ever.
Does anyone think I can get $58K for it.
I doubt it.
Rarity does not equate to value. <GGGGGGGGGGG>

--
thanks,
Jerry Forrester
check out my ebay store....
http://stores.ebay.com/CHROME-CHROME-CHROME

> >> 3,663
>
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> You might want to look over this 1 of 9 '63 to get an idea of what those
> cars are selling for.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6466&viewi
tem=&item=300201077577

> Lee
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Lee Aanderud05 Mar 2008 16:27
>> 3,663

> Hmmmm ..... that's quite a few more than the 70 R2 Hawks made in '64,
> with only 24 of those being non-package cars, and who knows how many
> are mint survivors. You can easily spend this much on a proper
> restoration and what do you end up with? ...  an unoriginal car.

Good luck getting $58,000 for it... my advice is if someone offers you 50%
of that, grab it and run.

You might want to look over this 1 of 9 '63 to get an idea of what those
cars are selling for.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6466&viewitem=
&item=300201077577


Lee

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Bob05 Mar 2008 16:19
> > Hmmmm .... and how many '61's were built?
>
> 3,663
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com

Hmmmm ..... that's quite a few more than the 70 R2 Hawks made in '64,
with only 24 of those being non-package cars, and who knows how many
are mint survivors. You can easily spend this much on a proper
restoration and what do you end up with? ...  an unoriginal car.

Lee Aanderud05 Mar 2008 15:40
> Hmmmm .... and how many '61's were built?

3,663

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Bob05 Mar 2008 15:13
> If he can get $58K for a '64, I'll have a '61 on the next day for $56K and
> personally deliver it anywhere in the US.
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> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com

Hmmmm .... and how many '61's were built?

Lee Aanderud05 Mar 2008 14:18
If he can get $58K for a '64, I'll have a '61 on the next day for $56K and
personally deliver it anywhere in the US.

Lee

> Last year of production. All ORIGINAL - paint, interior, motor,
> supercharger, etc. - and in MINT condition. 3 documented owners.
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>
> Bob

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Bob05 Mar 2008 13:53
Last year of production. All ORIGINAL - paint, interior, motor,
supercharger, etc. - and in MINT condition. 3 documented owners.
Reluctant sale due to financial circumstances. Numbers matching car
with unique one-of-a-kind history (delivered at factory as warranty
replacement for defective '63 R2). Pics on request. This is a serious
RARE car for a serious investor. $58,000.00

Bob

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