Re: My Camry Failed Inspextion. Code O0401
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Re: My Camry Failed Inspextion. Code O0401
| Ray O | 25 Feb 2008 04:10 |
>> The problem with driving today's modern vehicles is that they are pretty >> reliable, and so it is easy to lose track of parts prices. It seems like [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > My crystal ball shows a clutch in your future. Possibly worse. It has an automatic transmission. The friend says that the car ran fine before he parked it, so I'm hoping that it is just an adjustment somewhere.
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| Jeff Strickland | 25 Feb 2008 03:54 |
> The problem with driving today's modern vehicles is that they are pretty > reliable, and so it is easy to lose track of parts prices. It seems like [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > cleaning. It barely makes 30 MPH with the engine revving, I'll have to > investigate a little further. My crystal ball shows a clutch in your future.
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| Ray O | 25 Feb 2008 00:55 |
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> I had suggested that since the EGR valve was cheap, and had to come off to > clean the tube, one may as well replace it (or be ready to). It turns out > the EGR is not cheap at all. The problem with driving today's modern vehicles is that they are pretty reliable, and so it is easy to lose track of parts prices. It seems like the only cheap parts on any car nowadays are fuses and light bulbs (other than headlamps).
Just picked up a '93 Escort that had been sitting in a friend's driveway for 5 or 6 months. It is going to need a new battery, a bunch of bulbs, and rear shock supports. The hood won't latch and the gear select lever takes a lot of effort to move, hopefully those are just adjustments and cleaning. It barely makes 30 MPH with the engine revving, I'll have to investigate a little further.
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| Jeff Strickland | 25 Feb 2008 00:11 |
>>>>> While cleaning the tube, won't the crumbs come down into the tube? I >>>>> assumed that I remove detach the tube from the valve, right? [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > I would not start replacing parts based on the price. I would check the > parts and their function first, then replace the part that tests bad. Me too.
I had suggested that since the EGR valve was cheap, and had to come off to clean the tube, one may as well replace it (or be ready to). It turns out the EGR is not cheap at all.
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| Ray O | 24 Feb 2008 23:24 |
>>>> While cleaning the tube, won't the crumbs come down into the tube? I >>>> assumed that I remove detach the tube from the valve, right? [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > I'm an optomist, and this demands the expensive parts be robust. Assuming > this is accurate, the EGR valve itself should be okay. I would not start replacing parts based on the price. I would check the parts and their function first, then replace the part that tests bad.
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| Jeff Strickland | 24 Feb 2008 23:09 |
>>> While cleaning the tube, won't the crumbs come down into the tube? I >>> assumed that I remove detach the tube from the valve, right? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > mean, is it one part, or two parts? Because it sounds to me, that there > should be a valve and a sensor. Thanks. I'm pretty sure it is all one. Buy the new EGR valve, and use it to determine the screws needed to get the old one off.
While it is off, you can snake a coat hanger or equivelent down the tube, but I don't think you will find very much. I have never ever had an EGR valve problem, and one of my brother's had trouble with one a long time ago. He replaced the part, but I don't know what he may have done with the tube.
I agree with those that say it might be plugged, but my experience is that none of mine have ever been plugged. If it is plugged, it is easy to clean, but do not stress if you find it is clean already.
HOT OFF THE PRESSES I found the EGR valve at napaonline.com for $174 and $194 (4- and 6-cyl, respectively). This changes my approach a bit. There are other parts -- control solenoid, for example -- that are less costly. I would rethink what I would do in the face of a $200 part. I'd take a closer look at the tube, and check the solenoid and sensor.
I'm an optomist, and this demands the expensive parts be robust. Assuming this is accurate, the EGR valve itself should be okay.
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| Talal Itani | 24 Feb 2008 22:44 |
>> While cleaning the tube, won't the crumbs come down into the tube? I >> assumed that I remove detach the tube from the valve, right? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > isn't very expensive, and you may as well replace it since you will take > it off to clean the tube out. Is the EGR valve the part that attached to the top of the EGR tube? I mean, is it one part, or two parts? Because it sounds to me, that there should be a valve and a sensor. Thanks.
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| Jeff Strickland | 24 Feb 2008 22:16 |
> While cleaning the tube, won't the crumbs come down into the tube? I > assumed that I remove detach the tube from the valve, right? That is not a problem. The crumbs fall into the exhaust manifold, and eventually go out the tail pipe.
As a caveat, it is not likely that the tube needs to be cleaned. It's possible, that is true, but the EGR valve itself is probably worn out. It isn't very expensive, and you may as well replace it since you will take it off to clean the tube out.
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| Talal Itani | 24 Feb 2008 22:08 |
> <snipped> > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > shake out the crumbs. If that doesn't work, replace the EGR valve and > tube if they are clogged. While cleaning the tube, won't the crumbs come down into the tube? I assumed that I remove detach the tube from the valve, right?
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| Ray O | 24 Feb 2008 16:43 |
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> At 130,000 miles, there is a fairly good possibility that the EGR tube is >> blocked, especially if the car has mostly city miles. The EGR tube is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > clean? If it is a blocked tube, how deep down do I need to go, while > clearing it? Thanks. You did not mention whether you have the 4 or 6 cylinder engine, but the EGR valve looks like this: http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/details/QQToyotaQQCamryQQOE_ServiceQQEGR_Valve QQ19972001QQW0133-1603325.html
The EGR valve for the 4 cylinder is pictured but the one for the 6 will look pretty much the same. The EGR valve is attached with 4 bolts - 2 on the inlet and 2 on the outlet. Remove the EGR valve and the metal tube attached to it, and dig out the carbon buildup from inside the EGR and tube with a an old screwdriver or awl. Get out as much as you can and shake out the crumbs. If that doesn't work, replace the EGR valve and tube if they are clogged.
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| Talal Itani | 24 Feb 2008 15:57 |
>>>> Hello, >>>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > blocked, especially if the car has mostly city miles. The EGR tube is the > metal tube that is attached to the EGR valve. How is the tube detached in order to clean it? Are they other parts to clean? If it is a blocked tube, how deep down do I need to go, while clearing it? Thanks.
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| Ray O | 24 Feb 2008 06:36 |
>>> Hello, >>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > The car has 130,000 miles. Is the EGR tube the metal tube? At 130,000 miles, there is a fairly good possibility that the EGR tube is blocked, especially if the car has mostly city miles. The EGR tube is the metal tube that is attached to the EGR valve.
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| Talal Itani | 24 Feb 2008 01:23 |
>> Hello, >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > tube is blocked with carbon buildup. If that is the case, you can try to > dig out some of the carbon or replace the EGR valve and tube. The car has 130,000 miles. Is the EGR tube the metal tube?
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| Ray O | 23 Feb 2008 23:54 |
> Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Thanks, > Talal Itani How many miles are on the car? With the engine idling, apply vacuum to the EGR valve and see if the engine starts to idle roughly or start to die. If that happens, check the EGR position sensor. If the engine does not start to die, check the EGR tube for blockage. Most likely, the EGR tube is blocked with carbon buildup. If that is the case, you can try to dig out some of the carbon or replace the EGR valve and tube.
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| Talal Itani | 23 Feb 2008 23:37 |
Hello,
My Camry '97 just failed inspection. It is code P0401. 'Exhaust Gas Recirculation Flow Insufficient Detected.' Would you please give me your recommendations.
Thanks, Talal Itani
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