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Re: I appear to be the owner of a Celica ST185 GT4 :)

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Re: I appear to be the owner of a Celica ST185 GT4 :)

MeatballTurbo23 Aug 2004 15:00
> You don't _have_ to upgrade, I'm stil running R12 in the BM and have a
> place that can re-gas it for me, although the gas itself is a lot more
> expensive than the equivalent amount of R134A. you'll have to see how
> much the upgrade will be and which is cheaper, I s'pose

Where abouts in the country?

If it was close enough, I could look them up, and get them to give it a
diagnosis.
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Pete MC23 Aug 2004 14:46
> Today this morning, just messing about with it, and playing with the fan
> controls. Suddenly the aircon kicks in, A/C and Econ buttons work, ad it
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> valves. But why would it suddenly kick in, works on recirc and external
> draw in, but definaltey wasn't yesterday.

You don't _have_ to upgrade, I'm stil running R12 in the BM and have a
place that can re-gas it for me, although the gas itself is a lot more
expensive than the equivalent amount of R134A. you'll have to see how
much the upgrade will be and which is cheaper, I s'pose

MeatballTurbo22 Aug 2004 08:39
> > > Might easily cost 500 quid, but a regas is more like 50, I guess you
> > > typoed?
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> However, I'd be more concerned about the fecked 4wd drivetrain if it's
> clunking from the rear.

Quick update.

Today this morning, just messing about with it, and playing with the fan
controls. Suddenly the aircon kicks in, A/C and Econ buttons work, ad it
is fecking cold. Seems to be working, I'll try it later when things warm
up a bit. But weird how it wouldn't light up even yesterday. Wonder if
it is just low on gas. And yes it was an R12 system, so it would need an
update to R134A (yes I know that is fittings, oils, esters and filler
valves. But why would it suddenly kick in, works on recirc and external
draw in, but definaltey wasn't yesterday.

Strange that, if the aircon does work, and he thought it didn't by some
mysterious weird combo of switches and dials, I've got a bargain.

As to the clonks. Not all the, only when backing off from high throttle
to no throttle, like when going into a roundabout before shifting down,
only does it once, doesn't clonk/bump continuosly like the Saab did on
occasion. May get the dealer to price up the job, and then when I know
what it needs, find an indy to sort it.
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SteveH21 Aug 2004 23:29
> > Might easily cost 500 quid, but a regas is more like 50, I guess you
> > typoed?
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> Not an option with leather, but you've got cloth seats - I'd just leave it
> dead, and pretend it has no AirCon !

If the fuse has been pulled, odds-on it's a seized compressor pump.

Last one I priced up was for a 164 V6 at £600 plus VAT and fitting.

However, I'd be more concerned about the fecked 4wd drivetrain if it's
clunking from the rear.
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Nom21 Aug 2004 22:25
> Might easily cost 500 quid, but a regas is more like 50, I guess you
> typoed?
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> are good air con specialists who can tell you what's needed and do
> the work...

...at SERIOUS cost. AirCon parts are silly money for "normal" cars, unless
you get lucky and find some second hand bits. On top of that, they're
usually VERY well integrated - changing the compressor is non-trivial on
most cars (ie, Remove everything forward of the rear bumper. Exchange
compressor. Reverse procedure).
On top of all the above, it's likely to use the oldy "illegal" gas at that
age, so you'd have to do the conversion thing.

Multiply all the above statements by twelve, cos it's a Celica GT4 :)

Not an option with leather, but you've got cloth seats - I'd just leave it
dead, and pretend it has no AirCon !

Questions@quickwatchsales.com21 Aug 2004 18:49
>> Hasn't got the same "Woosh, Ohmygod...." factor of the Saab, but the
>> seats seem to suit me better, and it is loverly and smooth.
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>air con can be pricy but worth fixing if you plan to re-sell as it'll shift
>it quicker. probably needs a re-gassing approx £500  i think?

Might easily cost 500 quid, but a regas is more like 50, I guess you typoed?

To test this, with the fuse on, compressor clutch engaged and so forth the
compressor should be turning and pushing what gas there is around the system.
If it is not particularly cold around the evaporator, a regas will enliven it
(at least temporarily). If the compressor is seized, regas is pointless until
that's been changed, and a first stab at the cost would be 500, perhaps.
Fortunately there are good air con specialists who can tell you what's needed
and do the work.

>> a)£2k as he won't budge after dropping £300 to resell?
>> b)£1900 because I was local and had cash?
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>
>you got it for a steal as your a jammy git? £1750?

I reckon 1900. For no particular reason.

Vamp21 Aug 2004 15:34
> Hasn't got the same "Woosh, Ohmygod...." factor of the Saab, but the
> seats seem to suit me better, and it is loverly and smooth.
> Tax until end of December, MOT until june, no body damage, no rust,
> paint good except looks like a couple of supermarket carpark scrape type
> scratches, nothing serious.

nice

> Dives great, but a little play (slight clonk, not big thud) at the rear
> on deceleration.

probably the rear bushes? or anti roll bars?

> Still still has the Toyota "For Life" bright red coolant. Going to
> change all the other fluids over the next couple of weeks as I get used
> to it. Makes full boost as it should.

this stuff is meant to last 'for life' but most MR2 owners change it every
4-5 years with for life.

> Has a Thatcham cat 1 alarm and imobiliser, with the certificate.
> Nothing messed with original 15" wheels, near new P7000's all round,
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> near here, so I'll get some one to have a look as it looks like the fuse
> has been pulled as the switch doesn't work).

air con can be pricy but worth fixing if you plan to re-sell as it'll shift
it quicker. probably needs a re-gassing approx ?500  i think?

> H plate Celica GT4 4x4 turbo 137k miles, very near full service history.
> Any guesses to how much?
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>
> Prace bets now.....

you got it for a steal as your a jammy git? ?1750?

MeatballTurbo21 Aug 2004 15:24
Hasn't got the same "Woosh, Ohmygod...." factor of the Saab, but the
seats seem to suit me better, and it is loverly and smooth.
Tax until end of December, MOT until june, no body damage, no rust,
paint good except looks like a couple of supermarket carpark scrape type
scratches, nothing serious.

Dives great, but a little play (slight clonk, not big thud) at the rear
on deceleration.

Still still has the Toyota "For Life" bright red coolant. Going to
change all the other fluids over the next couple of weeks as I get used
to it. Makes full boost as it should.

Has a Thatcham cat 1 alarm and imobiliser, with the certificate.
Nothing messed with original 15" wheels, near new P7000's all round,
full bunch of paper work from the 1st "Toyota approved used buyer" pdi
check, right through to the last service.
Only problems are, cloth interior, and aircon doesn't work (well winters
near here, so I'll get some one to have a look as it looks like the fuse
has been pulled as the switch doesn't work).

H plate Celica GT4 4x4 turbo 137k miles, very near full service history.
Any guesses to how much?
He was selling it a few weeks ago for ?2300 but was getting messed
arround.
Had it advertised at ?2000 to move it.

a)?2k as he won't budge after dropping ?300 to resell?
b)?1900 because I was local and had cash?
c)?1750 because I am the next Mike Brewer, and he was a BMW owning
sucker who needed his drive back, and a 330 Coupe can't be cheap to have
parked on the road?

Prace bets now.....
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