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Re: Re: British Makes
| Pete M | 10 Mar 2004 01:02 |
In news:satr409hqorldm35ouq3oe6239tj8hnet9@4ax.com, Alex <nospam.alex@cbmsys.co.uk> decided to enlighten our sheltered souls with a rant as follows
>>>> Lanchester? >>>> >>>> Seem to remember the name, sure they were British, don't think >>>> they lasted too long though, bought up post WW2 maybe?
> The Lanchester brothers were great engineers, and made what were > considered some of the finest cars in the world at the time. The car [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > suspension in 1918, some 30 years before Citroen used it, also present > on this design was inboard rear brakes, inboard rear brakes?
any chance of digging the bastard back up and getting him to do the back pads on my Jag do ya reckon?
 Signature Pete M
Alfa 164 TS, Mercedes 500 SEL, Jaguar XJ-S 3.6, Golf GTi 8v Mk2
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| Alex | 09 Mar 2004 17:16 |
>> >Lanchester? >> > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >about him being a great designer, but not so good at the other areas of >making cars... The Lanchester brothers were great engineers, and made what were considered some of the finest cars in the world at the time. The car of choice for Royalty, here and abroad was a Lanchester.
Some of the Lanchester inventions are still in use, or thier decendants. For example, some modern 4/5 cylinder engine use harmonic balancer shafts to make the engines smoother. He registered over 400 patents, and the Lanchester was the first, all-british, 4-wheel petrol. For example, some modern 4/5 cylinder engine use harmonic balancer shafts to make the engines smoother This was first designed and used by Fred Lanchester in 1911.
He patented a 4wd system in 1904, the Crankshaft Vibration Damper in 1910, a design incorporated inside the crankshaft pully, an idea which appears on practically every engine made today. He invented hydraulic suspension in 1918, some 30 years before Citroen used it, also present on this design was inboard rear brakes, not otherwise used untill 1923 by Benz, and also proposed hydraulic brakes, some 3 years before Duesenberg managed it.
Lanchester's eventuall downfall was not due to design, or technical ability, or the cars produced, but more due to Fred's lack of financial acumen, coupled with his dislike of the kind of decisions that the Lanchester Motor Co board members made regarding cars. Fred always wanted to instigate a technical solution, which while the best option, was not the cheapest, or one acceptable on the basis of his ideas being "too innovative".
The company was taken over by the Birmingham Small Arms co in 1931, after the Bank refused to entertain the companies debts of £28,000. The depression did some measure to contribute to this. Thus Lanchester became amalgamated with the Daimler brand, also owned by BSA.
Alex
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| Stuffed | 09 Mar 2004 16:36 |
> >Lanchester? > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > seen one in years. It looked very much like the Daimler Majestic > for the smaller household.. I remember I had the full set of "On four Wheels" or something like that - One of those buy the lot type magazines, put them in quite nice silver fronted binders. Had a feature on Lanchester, that I'm sure said something about him being a great designer, but not so good at the other areas of making cars...
Could be very wrong though, the mags were new just after the Esprit came out, and I read them (quite) a few years later when I was in my early teens, so memory's a bit hazy!
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| ANDREW ROBERT BREEN | 09 Mar 2004 09:06 |
>Lanchester? > >Seem to remember the name, sure they were British, don't think they lasted >too long though, bought up post WW2 maybe? Until the 1950s, though they'd been part of Daimler for years by then. Oddly enough I saw a late-model Lanchester yesterday - first time I've seen one in years. It looked very much like the Daimler Majestic for the smaller household..
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| Stuffed | 09 Mar 2004 00:21 |
> In news:oltp409jv54u953grqfdssgm9e7i5en705@4ax.com, > Howard Rose <this-is-a-fake-address@I-am-not-here.com> decided to enlighten [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Caterham... this list could go on forever once people start bringing things > like Beans into it. Lanchester?
Seem to remember the name, sure they were British, don't think they lasted too long though, bought up post WW2 maybe?
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| Pete M | 08 Mar 2004 23:58 |
In news:oltp409jv54u953grqfdssgm9e7i5en705@4ax.com, Howard Rose <this-is-a-fake-address@I-am-not-here.com> decided to enlighten our sheltered souls with a rant as follows
>> Does anyone fave a full list of BRITISH makes of cars (Classic >> marks). [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Reliant, TVR, Wolseley, Aston Martin, London Taxi's International... Riley, Ginetta, Lotus, Jaguar, Vanden Plas, Noble, Ariel, Westfield, Caterham... this list could go on forever once people start bringing things like Beans into it.
 Signature Pete M
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Scouse Git extraordinaire. Liverpool, Great Britain
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| Howard Rose | 08 Mar 2004 22:42 |
>Does anyone fave a full list of BRITISH makes of cars (Classic marks). > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >Rolls R >Hillman Reliant, TVR, Wolseley, Aston Martin, London Taxi's International...
-- Howard Rose '66 VW Beetle 1300 Deluxe '62 Austin Mini Deluxe '64 Austin Mini Super Deluxe www.howard81.co.uk
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| Chris Stubbs | 08 Mar 2004 22:38 |
Does anyone fave a full list of BRITISH makes of cars (Classic marks).
Please correct me if any of these not Brittish
AC Austin Bristol Jenson Humber Morris MG Triumph Rover Morgon Aston Martin Rolls R Hillman
any more?
Chris
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