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Re: British Makes

dilbert10 Mar 2004 10:09
> It was, and I gave a perfectly reasonable answer to which he responded
> to with the smart arse comments about Vauxhall Victor's.  The fact is
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> 70's had as much British content as any other car made in the United
> Kingdom.

Like any other GM division Vauxhall had to sing from the same GM  Detroit
dictated hymm book  but had a fair amount of freedom to alter design
detailing within in that.

Interestingly in WW2 after Dunkirk the german forces captured very large
number of Bedord trucks which were taken on muster and kept running using
Opel parts -- some were still used in civil defence roles right to the end
of the conflict.

The HA Viva  was simply a copy of Opel Kadet mechanicals and chassis , the
Viva design diverged more from Opel with the coming of the HB and the HC,
but if you have the two side by side on the workshop floor the engines and
gearboxes clearly had the same roots right the way through to the last UK
made Chevettes which sold  in Germany after RWD Kadet production in Germany
stopped. Likewise anyone familiar with early 60s Chevies will recognise the
Detroit influence on the suspension of  the FD Victor, while the FE under
pinnings were Opels variations on the same theme. Prior to this of course
Vauxhall had always worked very closely with Holden

Richard H Huelin09 Mar 2004 19:00
> > > > > Does anyone fave a full list of BRITISH makes of cars (Classic
> > marks).
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> > statement?  Maybe you would care to enlighten us about the country of
> > origin of the Prince Henry and the nationality of Laurence Pomeroy.

> Seemed like a perfectly reasonable enquiry to me - chap looking for
> information - why dump on him from such a great height?

It was, and I gave a perfectly reasonable answer to which he responded
to with the smart arse comments about Vauxhall Victor's.  The fact is
that Vauxhall was originally totally British, (Named after Vauxhall
Works London) and even though in GM ownership since well before WWII up
the end of the Victor range the design and the content was British.
Apart from the Hydramatic auto boxes used on some of the range until
then, as far as I am aware no parts were interchangeable with either the
German Opel range or the US GM range.  Certainly American owned for a
very long time but the cars made by Vauxhall until the late 60's early
70's had as much British content as any other car made in the United
Kingdom.

Geoff Mackenzie09 Mar 2004 17:55
> > > > Does anyone fave a full list of BRITISH makes of cars (Classic
> marks).
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>
> --
Seemed like a perfectly reasonable enquiry to me - chap looking for
information - why dump on him from such a great height?

Geoff MacK

Richard H Huelin09 Mar 2004 15:06
> > > Does anyone fave a full list of BRITISH makes of cars (Classic marks).
> > >
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> > Vauxhall
> > Wolseley

> Vauxhall?  I didn't know it was a British make, thanks for that. And to
> think I wouldn't buy one as I only buy British cars. I wonder If I can find
> an old Victor to do up some day.

Sarcasm from a person who has the vaguest clue of what they are talking
about might be amusing, but when someone opens their mouth before
engaging their brain, it simply makes them look like a clueless fuckwit.

Did you not think about verifying your facts before coming out with that
statement?  Maybe you would care to enlighten us about the country of
origin of the Prince Henry and the nationality of Laurence Pomeroy.

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Chris Stubbs09 Mar 2004 12:34
> > Does anyone fave a full list of BRITISH makes of cars (Classic marks).
> >
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> > Austin
> > Bristol
..........snip
> > any more?
>
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> Arnstrong Siddeley
> B.S.A.
..........snip
> Singer
> Standard
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> --
> http://www.tractordata.co.uk/

Vauxhall?  I didn't know it was a British make, thanks for that. And to
think I wouldn't buy one as I only buy British cars. I wonder If I can find
an old Victor to do up some day.

 Chris

Richard H Huelin09 Mar 2004 00:48
> Does anyone fave a full list of BRITISH makes of cars (Classic marks).
>
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>
> any more?

In addition to those you mention all the following makers displayed
vehicles at the 1938 Earls Court Motor Show.  There were many more
British makers just before the First World War which could be listed if
of interest.

Alvis
Arnstrong Siddeley
B.S.A.
Bentley
British Salmson
Daimler
Frazer Nash
Jowett
Lagonda
Lanchester
Lea Francis
Railton
Riley
S.S. (Jaguar)
Singer
Standard
Sunbeam Talbot
Vauxhall
Wolseley

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Chris Stubbs08 Mar 2004 22:38
Does anyone fave a full list of BRITISH makes of cars (Classic marks).

Please correct me if any of these not Brittish

AC
Austin
Bristol
Jenson
Humber
Morris
MG
Triumph
Rover
Morgon
Aston Martin
Rolls R
Hillman

any more?

Chris

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