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Re: British Makes
| dilbert | 10 Mar 2004 10:09 |
> It was, and I gave a perfectly reasonable answer to which he responded > to with the smart arse comments about Vauxhall Victor's. The fact is [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > 70's had as much British content as any other car made in the United > Kingdom. Like any other GM division Vauxhall had to sing from the same GM Detroit dictated hymm book but had a fair amount of freedom to alter design detailing within in that.
Interestingly in WW2 after Dunkirk the german forces captured very large number of Bedord trucks which were taken on muster and kept running using Opel parts -- some were still used in civil defence roles right to the end of the conflict.
The HA Viva was simply a copy of Opel Kadet mechanicals and chassis , the Viva design diverged more from Opel with the coming of the HB and the HC, but if you have the two side by side on the workshop floor the engines and gearboxes clearly had the same roots right the way through to the last UK made Chevettes which sold in Germany after RWD Kadet production in Germany stopped. Likewise anyone familiar with early 60s Chevies will recognise the Detroit influence on the suspension of the FD Victor, while the FE under pinnings were Opels variations on the same theme. Prior to this of course Vauxhall had always worked very closely with Holden
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| Richard H Huelin | 09 Mar 2004 19:00 |
> > > > > Does anyone fave a full list of BRITISH makes of cars (Classic > > marks). [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > statement? Maybe you would care to enlighten us about the country of > > origin of the Prince Henry and the nationality of Laurence Pomeroy.
> Seemed like a perfectly reasonable enquiry to me - chap looking for > information - why dump on him from such a great height? It was, and I gave a perfectly reasonable answer to which he responded to with the smart arse comments about Vauxhall Victor's. The fact is that Vauxhall was originally totally British, (Named after Vauxhall Works London) and even though in GM ownership since well before WWII up the end of the Victor range the design and the content was British. Apart from the Hydramatic auto boxes used on some of the range until then, as far as I am aware no parts were interchangeable with either the German Opel range or the US GM range. Certainly American owned for a very long time but the cars made by Vauxhall until the late 60's early 70's had as much British content as any other car made in the United Kingdom.
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| Geoff Mackenzie | 09 Mar 2004 17:55 |
> > > > Does anyone fave a full list of BRITISH makes of cars (Classic > marks). [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > -- Seemed like a perfectly reasonable enquiry to me - chap looking for information - why dump on him from such a great height?
Geoff MacK
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| Richard H Huelin | 09 Mar 2004 15:06 |
> > > Does anyone fave a full list of BRITISH makes of cars (Classic marks). > > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Vauxhall > > Wolseley
> Vauxhall? I didn't know it was a British make, thanks for that. And to > think I wouldn't buy one as I only buy British cars. I wonder If I can find > an old Victor to do up some day. Sarcasm from a person who has the vaguest clue of what they are talking about might be amusing, but when someone opens their mouth before engaging their brain, it simply makes them look like a clueless fuckwit.
Did you not think about verifying your facts before coming out with that statement? Maybe you would care to enlighten us about the country of origin of the Prince Henry and the nationality of Laurence Pomeroy.
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| Chris Stubbs | 09 Mar 2004 12:34 |
> > Does anyone fave a full list of BRITISH makes of cars (Classic marks). > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Austin > > Bristol ..........snip
> > any more? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Arnstrong Siddeley > B.S.A. ..........snip
> Singer > Standard [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > -- > http://www.tractordata.co.uk/ Vauxhall? I didn't know it was a British make, thanks for that. And to think I wouldn't buy one as I only buy British cars. I wonder If I can find an old Victor to do up some day.
Chris
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| Richard H Huelin | 09 Mar 2004 00:48 |
> Does anyone fave a full list of BRITISH makes of cars (Classic marks). > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > any more? In addition to those you mention all the following makers displayed vehicles at the 1938 Earls Court Motor Show. There were many more British makers just before the First World War which could be listed if of interest.
Alvis Arnstrong Siddeley B.S.A. Bentley British Salmson Daimler Frazer Nash Jowett Lagonda Lanchester Lea Francis Railton Riley S.S. (Jaguar) Singer Standard Sunbeam Talbot Vauxhall Wolseley
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| Chris Stubbs | 08 Mar 2004 22:38 |
Does anyone fave a full list of BRITISH makes of cars (Classic marks).
Please correct me if any of these not Brittish
AC Austin Bristol Jenson Humber Morris MG Triumph Rover Morgon Aston Martin Rolls R Hillman
any more?
Chris
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