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Re: Start again.. loss of coolant

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Re: Start again.. loss of coolant

Signal30 Jan 2007 18:37
>> I see a spot of green under the radiator, and I'm waiting for warmer
>> weather to see if the fan comes on, but so far so good..
>
>If that is a regular thing, keep cats and dogs away from it or put
>some sort of absorbent down. Antifreeze is attractive to both... and
>deadly. But you knew that already.

I have heard that. Now you mention it, my cat has for some time had
the occasional sniffle around the front end. I thought he might be
after the remnants of a rabbit (..which I sadly dragged under the
front for 100 metres) but... well this is all starting to make sense.
The coolant hasn't visibly dropped before, but when it comes to trace
leaks I guess his nose is more precise than my eyes. :-)

OK I'll put something down..

>But, as you suggest... so far...

Yep, so far...

So.. is this sealant stuff any good?

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pfjw@aol.com30 Jan 2007 14:36
> I see a spot of green under the radiator, and I'm waiting for warmer
> weather to see if the fan comes on, but so far so good..

If that is a regular thing, keep cats and dogs away from it or put
some sort of absorbent down. Antifreeze is attractive to both... and
deadly. But you knew that already. But, as you suggest... so far...

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

Signal30 Jan 2007 14:03
>> No _obvious_ popping sound.
>>
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>Peter Wieck
>Wyncote, PA

I see a spot of green under the radiator, and I'm waiting for warmer
weather to see if the fan comes on, but so far so good..

Thx again

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pfjw@aol.com24 Jan 2007 01:38
> No _obvious_ popping sound.
>
> No _obvious_ sludge or foam either.

Good! If you go a week of normal driving with normal results, likely
you experienced an anomaly....

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

Signal22 Jan 2007 23:43
>a) When the engine is dead-cold, and you release the coolant cap, do
>you get a *POP*?

No _obvious_ popping sound.

>b) When you are done with a moderately long drive (that is, the engine
>reached full operating temperature for at least 10 minutes), put the
>car in the garage and allow to get cold as above (overnight). When you
>remove the oil-fill cap, is there any grey/white/pale-brown foamy
>sludge on the cap... about the consistency of warm vaseline?

No _obvious_ sludge or foam either.

Keeping my fingers crossed...

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pfjw@aol.com22 Jan 2007 20:28
Three questions:

a) When the engine is dead-cold, and you release the coolant cap, do
you get a *POP*?
b) When you are done with a moderately long drive (that is, the engine
reached full operating temperature for at least 10 minutes), put the
car in the garage and allow to get cold as above (overnight). When you
remove the oil-fill cap, is there any grey/white/pale-brown foamy
sludge on the cap... about the consistency of warm vaseline?
c) What does your temperature gauge do? Does it cycle between hot and
cold rapidly?

If yes to the first, you have either a blown head-gasket or a cracked
head. Either way, some oil and coolant may be being blown out your
exhaust.

If yes to the second, you are getting coolant into your oil via some
mechanism which then reacts with the oil to form the sludge. This last
test must be done only after the engine has been run at full operating
temperature for sufficient time to clear all the natural condensate
from cold starting out of the oil. So do not be overly alarmed if you
see such sludge after a series of short trips with the engine cooling
between each one. "False Positives" are common.

Lastly, it could be that your thermostat is malfunctioning. If your
engine is running cold, fuel consumption will increase greatly. If the
stat is short-cycling, then excess pressure will build in the engine
loop, blow-off coolant and so forth. The engine will overheat a bit and
use excess oil, then cool suddenly when the stat does open. All of it
simply *not good*.

If "NO" to all of the above, then fill to nominal levels and keep a
real eye on it. Betcha your friend drove at very high speed at
something of a load. Oil consumption is logarithmic... the first bit
takes a long time to use, the second bit much less, and so forth as
less and less oil is in the sump to handle heat and wear.

But in a complete vacuum, from a distance, not seeing the car and given
its approximate age and condition... I lean to the T-Stat.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

Signal21 Jan 2007 02:03
Sorry for being dim I'm not only learning about cars.. ;-)

I asked before about a burning smell, now I think that's the clutch so
scratch that..

My problem is I've had constant coolant level and marginal oil
consumption for years. I lent my car out for one day and both dropped
below minimum. I just hope the coolant isn't in the oil. Could
somebody look at the following pictures and say if they look OK for
synthetic oil, or does the chocolate colour suggest contamination?

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/4947/oil2bo.jpg
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/2020/oil20lo.jpg

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